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Geschrieben von schwarze 12 am 15.02.2012 um 10:17:

  Karl Schwarz, Jagd-Geschwader 53

Hallo,

hat jemand Informationen zum Absturz/Abschuß von Karl Schwarz (Carl Schwartz)?

Er gehörte dem Jagd-Geschwader 53 an und ist am 14. März 1945 nach einem Luftkampf bei Worfelden abgestürzt.

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Geschrieben von Peavey am 16.02.2012 um 19:49:

 

Hallo ?,

Ich glaube mit dieser spezifischen Fragen kann Dir in einem Luftwaffenforum besser und vor allem schnell geholfen werden.

Was mir da so auf die Schnelle einfällt:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/
http://www.luftwaffe-bullet-board.com/
http://www.forums.luftwaffedata.co.uk/forum/index.php
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewforum.php?f=49

Viel Erfolg

Beste Grüße
Bernhard

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Geschrieben von Kris am 19.02.2012 um 13:03:

 

Hello X ,


The best way will be ask here on this forum:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?s=71ed11e4aa0b13f453dd3ab45ef40b83&f=8

but first you have register on the forum. On this FORUM "12 o'clockhigh" there is some experts and people with big knowledge about Luftwaffe. Belive me on this forum you can expect positive answer.

I can also ask about information about Karl Schwarz instead of You.

See this is from this forum "12 o'clockhigh" :


"...Hauptmann Alfred HammerHallo Rasmussen and Remi,It seems you have some interesting documentation regarding Alfred Hammer and his Staffel!I personnaly have investigated for some years about some airfights concerning the II/JG53 in late 1944, and especially the ones on november 25th, december 12th and december 16th 1944.I would be VERY interested and thanksfull for any possible elements given in documents as logbooks or other unpublished documents concerning this unit on that time.Particulary concerned in my research are Alexander Preinfalk (6/JG53) and Alfred Ostermeyer (7/JG53) , Rudolf Hartter (6/JG53) and Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.I would be very interested to share about them!Cheers,Mathias ..."

so maybe Mathis help You .

See also here and ask owner of web side ( erik.mombeeck@telenet.be ):

http://www.luftwaffe.be/miamain.html

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Geschrieben von Kris am 19.02.2012 um 13:25:

 

See also this:
"...1./JG53 losses over Rijeka,Croatia on 18.3.1944oi!On 18.3.1944 in battle over Rijeka 1./JG53 loss 4 Bf-109G-6:- 162400; white 4; Uffz.Joseph Suss; KIA- 162215; white 6; Uffz. Arno Schicke, MIA - 162278; white 16; Fw. Karl Schwarz; MIA- 162267 ; white 18; Uffz. Hans Buschmuller; MIAWith friends I have found 3 crash sites. Does anyone have maybe some photos of this pilots or planes or anything other.thanksRausParts from two crash sites: ..."

Source: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=20440

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Geschrieben von Kris am 19.02.2012 um 20:28:

 

Source: http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/Kracker/LuftwaffeGermanPilotsS.html

Check following link by "S" , and You will see attached view.

Uffz. Karl Schwarz - last unit: 5/JG 53

His last aircraft probably was:
Bf 109G-14/AS - Werk numer 780665 "Black 10 + -" (lost 3/14/45) - KIA 14 March, 1945 during aerial combat with a P-47 near Woerfelden.

Contact to above mentioned source of info. here:
http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/contactus.php

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Geschrieben von schwarze 12 am 19.02.2012 um 20:43:

 

Hallo Kris,

Vielen Dank für diesen echt 'brauchbaren' Hinweis!

Vielen Dank und schöne Grüße aus Worfelden
(Thank you very much and kind regards)

Torsten

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Geschrieben von Kris am 19.02.2012 um 20:49:

 

Bf-109G more information:

http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/web.php?lang=de&auth=e&name=bf109g&versionscategory=9

Look like this one:
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/display.php?lang=de&auth=e&name=version_display&fotonummer=3982

Bf109G-14/AS

http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/01/bf-109-g-14-as.html

"...Fantastic series of images depicting Bf109G-14/AS WNr.780691 ... note the "chin bulged" lower cowl panel in photo 3, which was apaprently not due to any technical necessity - the area covered by the "chin bulge" (outlined by the thin black line) shows no tubes protruding outside of the lower cowl profilePeter Schmoll writes in "Die Messerschmitt-Werke im 2.Weltkrieg" that 780672 to 780697 were Bf109G-14/AS, produced in Regensburg from July 1944 onwards. Total number 1373, the last Bf109G-14/AS produced at Cham-Michelsdorf in March 1945. Regensburg production would have been at Waldwerk Hagelstadt "Gauting".The last digits of the Werknummer "0691" are repeated on the rear fuselage segment - maybe crudely over-painted with the same colour as the fuselage band. The tail unit is not of the "dark type" with stencilled blotches. ..."