Schutze: Stanislaus Zeglarek - MIA in East - probably Russia.

Dear Alex,

THANKS a lot for support and translation.

Is it possible see better view of Cmentary plan from here ?

http://www.kriegsgraeber-ukraine.info/Fr...re/karagos2.jpg

So just now probably we need to get confirmation from WaSt or Volksbund that uncle belong to unit: 170 Inf. Division.

Who can sent to us copy or scan of photo our uncle ?

Best regards,

PS - at attached on photo plan "Cmentary of 170ID" --> at E Block is only 90 graves, where is grave of our uncle with nr.140 ?

Is it any list of members/soldiers (names) conected with graves numbers ?

Acc. to:

"..10. Mai 1942 bei Ogustobe (Kertsch) gefallen ist und zunachst in Ogus-Tobe in einem Einzelgrab bestattet wurde .."

I just found following information about only village Ogus-Tobe –> Near Dyurmen (Schottenruh)

"... Ogus-Tobe - The Village Quote from the book "Mennonite Settlements onCrimea" by H. Goerz "Further east toward Kerch,were the Mennonite village of Ogus-Tobe andSarona, both wealthy, land-owning villages. Ogus-Tobe was situated in a rather unique settingbetween the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea at theisthmus of the Crimean peninsula. In the narrowestsection of this peninsula four kilometres from theSea of Azov and 18 from the Black Sea was Ogus-Tobe with its wide straight street over a kilometer long. Itwas lined on both sides with fences of mortared stoneand rows of beautiful trees. The public walkway next tothe fence was covered with seashells so that no rubberswere needed when it rained. The large modern houseswere built of stone taken from the quarry, whichbelonged to the village. Each farm had an orchard anda vineyard to suit its needs. The village was small whenit was founded in 1884-1885, but soon expanded withthe purchase of additional land. Land holdings ofindividual farmers varied from 200 to 800 dessiatines*.The land consisted of the best black soil. In spite of itsclose proximity to the sea, there was not much rain inspring and summer. Consequently, summer fallowing ofthe land was of great importance. Winter wheat andbarley produced bountifully when planted in such soil.School and teacherage, a large beautiful building, stoodin the centre of the village. Sunday worship services,which were held in the school, were augmented bySunday school, a choir and the women's auxiliary. Inthe early years the Ogus-Tobe congregation wasaffiliated with Gnadenfeld congregation in Molotschna(on the mainland). Later it joined the Karrassancongregation" in the Crimea.* 1 dessiatine equals 2.7 acresThe village name Ogus-Tobe- probably dates back in time to the original much older nearby villageestablished when the Turks inhabited it and by thistime in ruins. Many of the Crimean villages hadTurkish names ...."

Source: http://www.ahsgroregon.com/08_06_clr_AHSGR_Calgary.pdf

But I can not to find on the map. Have you links to German military WH map ?

Also have found following maps but where is on the map: Ogus -Tobe - here as I see 'gefallen')?

Source:
http://www.gutenberg-e.org/esk01/maps/LageOst28Jun42_lg.jpg

"... 7) Wiedereroberung der Halbinsel Kertsch vom 8. bis 21. Mai 1942 ..."
Source:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krimschild

But grave should be at Waldfriedhof in Stary-Krim / Ukraine (as on the attached map)

Hi Kris!

Oguz-Tobe (seems that's spelled with 'z') is situated in western direction of Kertsch. See the following map:

http://de.getamap.net/karten/ukraine/ukraine_(general)/_oguztobe/

And in the first part of this page you can find pictures of the military cemetary in Staryi Krim, though they are taken during war.

http://www.allworldwars.com/Romanian-and-German-Troops-in-Bessarabia-Ukrain
e-Crimea-1941-42-Part-III.html

Thanks , so small mistake from WaSt letter

Is it following photo ("Division military cemetery in Stary Krym")?
http://www.allworldwars.com/image/126/Be...-Crimea-269.jpg

We sent yesterday e-mail with question about more details of grave our uncle (present location/place).

There is somebody on this FORUM who can say something more about present situation on this Cmentary (fresh photo) ?

Have somebody of You access or read this article (or saw map) ? :

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13518040108430472

there is some information about of German and Russian combat arround Oguz-Tobe in 1942?
I need to know if it is worth to buy ?

I have found only this about combat on the Krim (sorry but written in Polish language):

http://portal.strategie.net.pl/index.php...czne&Itemid=110

CAn sombody advice for me on the which Cmentary is grave of our uncle ?

Have a look:
Soldatenfriedhof in Stary Krim, Ukraine an der Straße nach Simferopol, Einzel- und Kameradengräber im Raum Stary Krim

K35 =


Einzel- und Reihengräber und Friedhöfe in Nowo Pokrowka, Ukraine, etwa 7km südpstwärts Islam-Terek, Krim

K36 =


Einzel- und Kameradengräber auf und an der Höhe 50,6 in Ssemisotka, Ukraine, etwa 3 km nordwestl. Arma Eli und an der Bahnlinie bei AK-Monaj, Krim

K37 =


Feldgräber beiderseits der Straße in der Dorfmitte von Ogus Tobe, Ukraine und bei der Höhe 50,5 etwa 33 km nordostwärts Feodosia, Krim

More :
http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/2009/jaeg_..._jaeger_wk2.htm

On this list missing Stanislaus Zeglarek:

http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/2009/jaeg_...k2_1942_q-z.htm

Can somebody help in translation from German into English attached letter (pdf) ?


Is it correct Cmentary ?

http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Informatio...tails_0_12.html

Other cmentaries:
http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/grabsuche/...and=13&s_fried=

By the way I attached some details about battle/fight arround Oguz-tobe in May 1942.

First our ucle had own grave after as we see present is without own grave - how looks true and present situation ? Just now we are not 100% sure where there is his grave and where to travel to see his monument/grave.

THANKS A LOT FOR ALL GERMAN ORGANIZATION IN HELP OF SEARCH GRAVE OF OUR UNCLE STANISLAUS ZEGLAREK !!!!

His familly Zeglarek

Dears ,

We just received answer/letter from WaSt with some information about uncle.
Info. show unit:
6.Kompanie Schutzen-Regiment 129
but from his "Erkennungsmarke" - he belong to:
4. Kompanie Schutzen Ersatz Bataillon 73
( 4./Schtz.E.Btl.73 )
We have to translate 3 pages of letter for more details about him and his history on the Krim in 1942.

Thanks a lot for help !!!!

Best regards,

Leszek

PS- here is a lt of maps from period May (and others) from 1942 - day by day situation on the Krim:
https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/1fDg9R1oNAU1n0

Zitat:

Original von Kris By the way I attached some details about battle/fight arround Oguz-tobe in May 1942

Hello, Kris,

could it be that the name of the village is Dshaw-Tobe? Please, have a look at the attached map.

Do you know "Sevastopol 1942" written by Robert Forczyk? If you don't know the book please send me your e-mail-adress (PN).

Greetings - Ricard

Hello Richard,

Acc. to a book my e-mail was sent to You.
By the way - my uncle Stanislaus Zeglarek was KIA at 10 May 1942 in Ogus-Tobe / Kertsch.
His unit was part of 22.Panzer Division see attached map - its agree.

Map show situation on the 10 May 1942.

For more maps with situation on May 1942 have a look maps from here:

https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/1fDg9R1oNAU1n0

Battel - One Photo from Kertsch:

http://www.boinaslava.net/manstein/wwii227.jpg